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PostPosted: 26.07.2006 14:30    Post subject: HTML/PHP Editor Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Jel zna netko za dobar html editor za OSX. Nedavno sam presao na OSX (iMac 20" Intel) i do sada sam na Windowsima koristio Dreamweaver za pisanje koda, ali posto Dreamweaver jos ne postoji kao universal binary trazim neku zamjenu.
Nije da radi jako sporo, ipak imam 2 GB RAM-a, ali nije bas ni najbrze preko Rosetta-e.
Isprobao sam SubEthaEdit i TextMate, cine mi se ok, ali fali mi autocomplete (code hint) feature, a i automatsko zatvaranje tagova. Ili je mozda to nekako moguce ukljuciti?
Znaci zanima me neka solidna zamjena za Dreamweaver, ne mora biti free.
Thnx!

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PostPosted: 26.07.2006 14:49    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

http://www.nvu.com/index.php

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PostPosted: 26.07.2006 14:58    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

besplatni TextWrangler:
http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml

odnosno platni BBedit:
http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.shtml

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PostPosted: 26.07.2006 15:05    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

@mile
nazalost nije universal

@maratz
thnx, budem isprobao

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PostPosted: 26.07.2006 17:22    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

TextMate ima te feature - pogledaj screencast o editingu HTML-a
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PostPosted: 27.07.2006 11:11    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sulien wrote:
TextMate ima te feature - pogledaj screencast o editingu HTML-a

A tako Smile
Ovaj TextMate mi se cini jako mocan, i izgleda da cu to na kraju kupiti Smile
Osim ako netko mozda ima neku drugu preporuku za dobar editor? Koji ti koristis?

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PostPosted: 27.07.2006 14:56    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ne radim na OS X i ne znam kakvi su drugi editori

Za TextMate znam da je odličan jer sam gledao screencastove i hvale ga na IRC-u, mailinglistama...

Svakako probaj i besplatne alternative, možda imaju ono što ti treba
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PostPosted: 28.07.2006 08:56    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Sulien wrote:
Ne radim na OS X i ne znam kakvi su drugi editori

Za TextMate znam da je odličan jer sam gledao screencastove i hvale ga na IRC-u, mailinglistama...

Svakako probaj i besplatne alternative, možda imaju ono što ti treba

Ok budem jos malo pretrazio. Inace ovaj TextMate je stvarno odlican. Jos moram nauciti sve shortcutove, featurei su mu mu fenomenalni. Jos kad se uzme u obzir da samo jedan covjek radi na toj aplikaciji Smile Jedino mi je cijena malo visoka, 40 EUR. Ali mislim da se cak isplati.

Uglavnom budem jos malo pretrazio pa mozda i nadjem neku alternativu.

E da, naletio sam na odlican CSS editor, imena CSSEdit, mogu samo reci odlicno! Tako nesto bi dobro doslo na windowsima Smile
Inace hvala!

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PostPosted: 28.07.2006 10:30    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Postoji TopStyle za win, međutim takvi spec. CSS editori su uglavnom za početnike. Ak mislliš radit ozbiljno s CSS-om ionak ćeš to morat naučit napamet. Jedino kaj ti za CSS treba je bojanje koda, za lakši pregled filea.

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PostPosted: 28.07.2006 10:48    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

maratz wrote:
Postoji TopStyle za win, međutim takvi spec. CSS editori su uglavnom za početnike. Ak mislliš radit ozbiljno s CSS-om ionak ćeš to morat naučit napamet. Jedino kaj ti za CSS treba je bojanje koda, za lakši pregled filea.

Ma pisem ja ionako rucno CSS kod. Ponekad uz malu pomoc code hint funkcije Smile, ali kod CSSEDit mi je dosta dobar onaj popis sastrane, da se mogu grupirati pojedine class-e. Dosta je korisno kod velikih CSS fileova.

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PostPosted: 30.07.2006 11:53    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Evo pronasao sam si idealan editor. Radi odlicno i ima sve feature koji mi trebaju. Mozda bi bilo zgodno da se preuzmu neke sitnice iz TextMatea, ali inace je stvarno najbolji do sad.
Ako nekog interesira evo link:
skEdit

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PostPosted: 30.07.2006 18:52    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

maratz wrote:
Postoji TopStyle za win, međutim takvi spec. CSS editori su uglavnom za početnike. Ak mislliš radit ozbiljno s CSS-om ionak ćeš to morat naučit napamet. Jedino kaj ti za CSS treba je bojanje koda, za lakši pregled filea.

ja bi recimo code completion, da manje pisem, dakle ako utipkam "bo" da mi odma ponudi "border" itd.

jel se to moze nekako u ultraeditu iskonfat, da ne trazim dalje?

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PostPosted: 30.07.2006 18:58    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

carr wrote:
maratz wrote:
Postoji TopStyle za win, međutim takvi spec. CSS editori su uglavnom za početnike. Ak mislliš radit ozbiljno s CSS-om ionak ćeš to morat naučit napamet. Jedino kaj ti za CSS treba je bojanje koda, za lakši pregled filea.

ja bi recimo code completion, da manje pisem, dakle ako utipkam "bo" da mi odma ponudi "border" itd.

jel se to moze nekako u ultraeditu iskonfat, da ne trazim dalje?


Neb znao odgovor na to pitanje, ali to meni nikad nije odgovaralo. Kad sam počinjao s hand-codingom, probao sam u DW-u kodirat, koji mi je non-stop nešto sugerirao nešto.

Koristim code snippetse (u programmers notepadu), napišem si npr. neki CSS declaration blok i s dvoklikom ušparam vrijeme pisanja cijele te linije. Ili više linija, ili cijelog heada sa doctype-om i svim ostalim.

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PostPosted: 30.07.2006 21:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

carr wrote:
ja bi recimo code completion, da manje pisem, dakle ako utipkam "bo" da mi odma ponudi "border" itd.

jel se to moze nekako u ultraeditu iskonfat, da ne trazim dalje?

Ima tocno to u Dreamweaveru. UltraEdit cini mi se nema taj code completion

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PostPosted: 30.07.2006 22:02    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

red wrote:
carr wrote:
maratz wrote:
Postoji TopStyle za win, međutim takvi spec. CSS editori su uglavnom za početnike. Ak mislliš radit ozbiljno s CSS-om ionak ćeš to morat naučit napamet. Jedino kaj ti za CSS treba je bojanje koda, za lakši pregled filea.

ja bi recimo code completion, da manje pisem, dakle ako utipkam "bo" da mi odma ponudi "border" itd.

jel se to moze nekako u ultraeditu iskonfat, da ne trazim dalje?


Neb znao odgovor na to pitanje, ali to meni nikad nije odgovaralo. Kad sam počinjao s hand-codingom, probao sam u DW-u kodirat, koji mi je non-stop nešto sugerirao nešto.

Koristim code snippetse (u programmers notepadu), napišem si npr. neki CSS declaration blok i s dvoklikom ušparam vrijeme pisanja cijele te linije. Ili više linija, ili cijelog heada sa doctype-om i svim ostalim.

Meni recimo DW odgovara, vjerojatno zato jer sam jos nekad radio u Homesite-u, pa sam navikao na taj code completion. Zato mi i sa bolje pase ovaj skEdit od TextMate. TextMate ima te snippetse, ali za to bi mi trebalo nesto vremena da se naviknem, a i nesto je skuplji TextMate Smile

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PostPosted: 03.08.2006 12:31    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

red wrote:
Koristim code snippetse (u programmers notepadu), napišem si npr. neki CSS declaration blok i s dvoklikom ušparam vrijeme pisanja cijele te linije. Ili više linija, ili cijelog heada sa doctype-om i svim ostalim.

Kako sloziti te snippetse u PNotepadu?
Malo sam se naviknuo na ovaj TextMate, pa bi super bilo nest slicnoga za Windowse.

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PostPosted: 03.08.2006 12:52    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

strija wrote:
red wrote:
Koristim code snippetse (u programmers notepadu), napišem si npr. neki CSS declaration blok i s dvoklikom ušparam vrijeme pisanja cijele te linije. Ili više linija, ili cijelog heada sa doctype-om i svim ostalim.

Kako sloziti te snippetse u PNotepadu?
Malo sam se naviknuo na ovaj TextMate, pa bi super bilo nest slicnoga za Windowse.


Ja sam jednostavno dodao fajlove u clips direktorij (kod mene C:\Program Files\PN2\clips). Napraviš neki clip po uzoru na one postojeće, pukneš unutra kaj hoćeš i sejvaš, pa se to pojavi u Text Clips windowu.

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PostPosted: 03.08.2006 12:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

E super thanx. Ja uporno trazim rijec snippets a zove se Text Clips Smile
Makar mi je rjesenje u TextMate malo bolje izvedeno Smile upise se recimo a, pritisne tab, i automatski se ubaci snippet za <a> tag.
Ali ovako isto nije uopce lose Smile samo se mora koristiti mis

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PostPosted: 03.08.2006 13:06    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Eh sori, kad sam pisao onaj post prije nisam ni pogledao, mislio sam da su snippetsi.

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PostPosted: 04.08.2006 09:56    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

strija wrote:
Ima tocno to u Dreamweaveru. UltraEdit cini mi se nema taj code completion

nazalost dreamweaver mi je spor kod pokretanja, rusi se, glup je, itd....trea mi text editor, ne wyswiwyg editor, ftp klijent i baza smetlarskog koda Smile

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PostPosted: 04.08.2006 10:08    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

carr wrote:
strija wrote:
Ima tocno to u Dreamweaveru. UltraEdit cini mi se nema taj code completion

nazalost dreamweaver mi je spor kod pokretanja, rusi se, glup je, itd....trea mi text editor, ne wyswiwyg editor, ftp klijent i baza smetlarskog koda Smile

Da meni pogotovo sporo radi na Intel Macu, unatoc 2 GB RAMA Smile kad jos nema universal binary verzija.
Mozes probati za Windowse PsPad ili mozda PHP Designer. Meni se ovaj PHP Designer cini dosta dobar.

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