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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 10:57    Post subject: jpeg kompresija? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Tražio sam po netu ali nikako da naletim na to što me zanima - ima neki program ili plugin za super kompresiju slika - velicina slike bude smješno mala a kvaliteta ostane ista npr. neki jpeg koji je normalno oko 1mb obrađen s tim bude oko 100 kb a kvaliteta slike je ista ili neprimjetno lošija...
Ako tko zna s čim se to radi bio bih zahvalan.

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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:14    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Save for web u PHotoshopu standardno. Drugo ne znam. Staviš qualitiy 60 i eto ga.
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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:15    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

probaj sa Photoshopom ('Save for web' opcija).

edit: preduhitrio me.

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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:16    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Rekoh ™©­® Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Wink
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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:27    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ma znam to save for web... ne treba mi to - ovo za šta pitam je za slike za print 300 dpi, 5, 10, 20...cm veličine... za kataloge, oglase, plakate...
Prvi put kad sam to skuzija dobia san slike iz italije za katalog, ubacia cd pogleda velicine slika kad ono fileovi velicine 60-70 kb?! vec sam pocea psovat talijane šta su mi slije za web poslali kad se radi katalog i otvorim jednu sliju onako bezveze kad slija 7-8 cm na 300 dpi Shocked i sve ostale isto tako...

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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:29    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Pitaj ih? Ne znam stavrno. Ne čuh. Da nije bilo 600-700 kila. Morit zabuna jelte.
AL bilo bi fino. E ja baš tražim super large slike i printove malo bi sobu uredio pa se uvatio pritnanja.
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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:43    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Nije zabuna ima sam jos susreta s takvim fileovima, to je ka neka super jpeg kompresija - tako nešto, naša sam nešto na netu ali sam mislija da mozda netko na forumu zna točno što je to ili koristi... Dobra je baza pogotovo za poslat sliju priko maila ili nabit x slika na cd ili dvd...
A pitat ne mogu jer ja dobjem materijale iz 2-3 ruke - ne od onoga tko ih je priprema...

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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:50    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

U mojoj kratkoj karijeri pripreme za štampu exportovanje u TIFF pa RARovanje ili ZIPovanje se pokazalo jako uspjšnim. Najbolje od svega je što ne izgubiš ništa na kvaliteti.

Fajl od cca. 1mb bude oko 200Kb.
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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:53    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ma dobro to al čojek sigurno se interesira za slike za net? Il nisam u pravu?
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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 11:56    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Što se same JPEG kompresije tiče Macromedia Firefox je bolji od Photoshopa (barem su se tako hvalili kolegi koji je prisustvovao jednoj Macromedia konferenciji). Nisam probao pa ne mogu potvrditi. Postoji i JPEG2/JPEG2000 format no ni Adobe ni Macromedia ga baš nisu prigrlili. Na netu možeš skinuti plugin koji ti preko "Save as" u Photoshopu ponudi i "Save as JPEG2000" pa ti otvori dialog box sa export opcijama".
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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 12:00    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Ono sto ponesto iskusniji Photoshop useri znaju:

Kod snimanja JPEGa izaberes opciju Baseline Optimized umjesto vec preselektirane Baseline ("Standard") opcije.
Kod Baseline Standard opcije veci nivo kompresije daje manji file koji je kvalitetniji (manje vidljivih JPEG artefakata), nego defaultno selektirani Baseline Standard s manjom kompresijom tj. vecom datotekom.

Isprobajte, trebalo bi raditi. Smile

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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 12:09    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Proba - nije ni to - to je smanjilo file za nekih 10% - ovo za koje pitam smanji file 90%...
Naša sam nešto na netu šta bi moglo bit to - program Advanced jpeg compressor i plugin za pshop projpeg 6.

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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 12:21    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Kad prebacis na Baseline Optimized mozes skinuti nivo kompresije na pola i moze ti se dogoditi da zadrzis isti nivo kvalitete kao kod Baseline Standard. Jesi li "skinuo" nivo kompresije?

Posto je mali JPEG file mogao bi ga attachati (ako je to moguce na ovom forumu) uz svoju poruku da ga proucimo.

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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 12:42    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Je kad skinem kompresiju na pola slika je ok a file duplo manji...
Pregleda sam komp sada - nema bice se izbrisalo jer ima dosta da se s tim radilo... treba bi imat backup negdi... neman sad volje ni vrimena trazit to (petak Very Happy ) potrazim u pon.
A ovi program i plugin šta sam naša ću isprovat doma (triba crack) pa ću javit rezultate.

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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 13:34    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

TYPE01 wrote:
Što se same JPEG kompresije tiče Macromedia Firefox je bolji od Photoshopa...
Ehm.. dok sam prvi put citao ovaj post nesto mi je bilo cudno. Dok sam pogledao drugi put sam shvatio sto Wink

Enivej, koliko su moja iskustva Fireworks nije bas nesto primjetno bolji od Photoshopa. A s ostalim kompresorima™ nisam bas imao iskustva...
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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 13:37    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

WiCkED wrote:
TYPE01 wrote:
Što se same JPEG kompresije tiče Macromedia Firefox je bolji od Photoshopa...
Ehm.. dok sam prvi put citao ovaj post nesto mi je bilo cudno. Dok sam pogledao drugi put sam shvatio sto Wink

Enivej, koliko su moja iskustva Fireworks nije bas nesto primjetno bolji od Photoshopa. A s ostalim kompresorima™ nisam bas imao iskustva...


Smile Macromedia Fireworks Smile
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PostPosted: 26.08.2005 15:43    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

eto, ni Type nije savršen Surprised
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PostPosted: 28.08.2005 18:39    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Advanced JPEG Compressor 4.7

http://www.winsoftmagic.com
http://www.winsoftmagic.com/download/ajpegcompr.exe


evo naletia na ovo ,mozda ti pomogne

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PostPosted: 18.09.2005 01:07    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

moguce je da kompresuje mnooogo sporije od opichnog jpeg-a, ali svakako mi je sumnjivo.. jako sumnjivo.... ali kazhu da sam sumnjichav po prirodi... Smile

Ako nadjesh, post-uj ovde negde - bash me interesuje jel radi....

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PostPosted: 20.09.2005 16:00    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

TYPE01 wrote:
Što se same JPEG kompresije tiče Macromedia Firefox je bolji od Photoshopa


Mislis Fireworks? Da, FW je definitivno puno bolji za kompresiju (20ak puta bolji Wink ) slika od PSa... Ima opciju export preview koju kada kliknes mozes optimizirati sliku do mile volje, a najbolja fora je sto se odmah previewa ucinak...

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PostPosted: 21.09.2005 08:42    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Shocked
pa o cemu vi, ljudi?

@p4p3r:
vau... odma previewa ucinak? Cool

photoshop -> file -> save for web
(ili alt+shift+ctr+s)


a ovo za bolju kompresiju... Rolling Eyes
type01 je malo veci autoritet, tak da se ne bi svadjo oko toga, al ja sam uvjek zadovoljniji PSom...

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PostPosted: 21.09.2005 08:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

budha wrote:


@p4p3r:
vau... odma previewa ucinak? Cool


Hehehe da, kako sam to mudro zakljucio Embarassed

U cemu je ustvari fora... Radio sam jednu stranicu (ne zelim se uopce sjetiti linka) sa jednom grafickom dizajnericom koja kuzi ps! Ja sam radio samo layout, a onda dizajn. Kada mi je pripremala slike za galeriju sve su bile, nakon ps exporta, bezobrazno velike, pa sam ja bez provjere glupo zakljucio kako je fw puno bolji za export!

A evo sto kazu stvarni rezultati:
PS export, quality 50%, size 11,9kb


FW export, quality 73%, size 11,5kb


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PostPosted: 21.09.2005 09:27    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

alo, kad moram mejlati neki oglas (A4, zacmikan, 300 dpi) onda jpg spakiram u ps-u
standard opcijom sa 8 ili 9 Q, to je recimo sa 50 mega na 5, taman za mejl
naravno sve ovisi o originalu, ako je sken dijaca ili analogne fotke onda pokusavam poslati cd-om tj. izbjegavam kompresiju
ako je digitalna fotka (obicno), onda se ne libim kompresije, jer je ionako slabije kvalitete
aj bok...



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PostPosted: 21.09.2005 09:46    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

pa mislim da se iz prilozenog vidi da je bolji ps... artefakti su malo vise zblurani Wink

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PostPosted: 21.09.2005 10:12    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Jel' to u PSu komprimirano sa Baseline standard ili Baseline Optimized?

Jer opet bih se pozvao na svoj post iznad. Baseline optimized bi trebao dati jos manji file koji je kvalitetom bolji (manje artifakata).

Nemam FW pa ne mogu usporediti.

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