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Posted: 10.01.2006 20:09 Post subject: |
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10:07 am iLife and .Mac. One more product... iWork '06.
10:09 am Really good year for the Mac. Had previously announced that by June of this year they would be shipping Macs with Intel. How are we doing? LOL
10:10 am Paul Otellini appears. Intel is ready. Apple is ready too.
Znači drže se plana, Intel based Macovi kroz ljeto kako bi developeri biti happy!
10:12 am First Mac with Intel processor today.HM?
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Posted: 10.01.2006 20:10 Post subject: |
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che.UP wrote: | AAAAAAAhhh... SVRSH!!!111 ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
Steve maybe ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Ivan Brezak Brkan
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Posted: 10.01.2006 20:14 Post subject: |
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10:12 am The iMac - built in isight camera. front row. incredible reception.
10:14 am Same sizes. 17", 20". Same design. Same features (isight, front row, apple remote), Same price. What's different.
10:15 am Two cores. each one faster than the G5.
10:14 am Intel Core Duo. an amazing chip.
10:16 am showing benchmarks. overall 2-3x faster.
Prvi Mac s Intel based procesorom... iMac... Didnt see that one coming...
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Posted: 10.01.2006 20:16 Post subject: |
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ista cijena?!
a bilo je za ocekivat
ja sam ipak ceko minija nekog sa nekim jacim procesorom, ono kaj im je ostalo na skladistu viska ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Ivan Brezak Brkan
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Posted: 10.01.2006 20:19 Post subject: |
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10:17 am iLife 06 and iWork 06 are all universal binaries, and was demoing them on an Intel machine.
10:16 am 10.4.4 is entirely native on Intel processor. All the applications included are universal and native on Intel.
Zanima me što će ekipa koja se možda malo više razumije u procesore reći o samom tom Core Duo procesoru...
10:19 am Rosetta on iMac. Office runs great on Rosetta.
10:20 am Worked to make sure that current versions of Office run well in Rosetta.
10:20 am Microsoft BU update. microsoft rep talking about being on track for unviversal binaries of Office and Messenger.
10:24 am Demoing other apps on Rosetta. Photoshop.
10:29 am Showing a Powerbook G4. Trying to shoehorn a G5 into the Powerbook. We've done everyhing possible...
10:30 am New laptop computer.
10:30 am Today - MacBook Pro
10:30 am But power consuption. Now discussing Peformance per Watt.
10:31 am 4-5x faster.
10:31 am 2 processors in every Macbook pro.
10:38 am Taking orders today.
10:37 am Shipping in February.
10:37 am 5.6lbs. iSight, Front Row; $1999 1.67 Core Duo; 667 DDR bus, x1600; $2499 1.83GHz.
10:41 am Shows pic of Jobs and Woz. will be 30 years in 4-1-2006.
10:40 am Thanks intel.
10:40 am Thanking people who walk out on stage. Lots of applause.
10:38 am Showing in the Intel ad one more time.
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Posted: 10.01.2006 21:10 Post subject: |
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ček novi imac sa intelom? vuhuuu...da mi je to uzet ajme... kolika cijena isto plus minus 12000* |
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jurka
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Posted: 10.01.2006 21:29 Post subject: |
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Gotovo je. Kupujem MacBooka. Čim dođe kod nas. Odmah. Bez čekanja. Kupili su me! |
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Posted: 11.01.2006 00:08 Post subject: |
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jurka wrote: | Gotovo je. Kupujem MacBooka. Čim dođe kod nas. Odmah. Bez čekanja. Kupili su me! |
Ja cu odolit jos malo, pa ce bit Pimp my PowerMac. Fino 10k 16mb cache disk ko sistemac i maxed out ram... ne jebe me ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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Posted: 11.01.2006 03:00 Post subject: |
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gled'o stream... ima ga na apple-ovom siteu...
veliki deo keynote-a pretstavlja jobsovo nabrajanje koliko su love pobrali...... a masa mu aplaudira... ne kuzim? ![Think](images/smiles/icon_think.gif) |
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Posted: 11.01.2006 03:27 Post subject: |
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koskar wrote: | veliki deo keynote-a pretstavlja jobsovo nabrajanje koliko su love pobrali...... a masa mu aplaudira... ne kuzim? |
what else is new?
al kad gledam gatesa prije par dana i steva ipak mi je steve bolji showman. |
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Ivan Brezak Brkan
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Posted: 11.01.2006 09:29 Post subject: |
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Steve always puts on a show
Osobno, čekam da prašina slegne oko Intel based Macova te da vidim o čemu se točno tu radi i kako zaista radi te da li se isplati kupiti prije ili poslije... |
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Posted: 11.01.2006 10:53 Post subject: |
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nigdi nema koliko traje baterija na novom booku ... jel to znači da intel ipak cica više struje ... (baterija je za 30% jača od one iz 17" Gg Pbooka btw)
ovo 2, 3, 4 puta brže je naravno napuhano i vrijedi u specifičnim situacijama, in real life to će biti oko 20-40% što nije loše ...
ne vidim da je book išta tanji?
iWeb izgleda zgodno al je vezan za .mac?
But as iTunes has shown, Apple's engineers are capable of writing software for Windows. And that thought should strike fear in the heart of every software executive around.
nisam stigo još pregledat što još ima novo, nije loše, otprilike smo prestigli della već sad, (dionice debelo preko 80 ), al ništa meni prezanimljivo ... očekujemmalu seriju najava do proljeća (iBook, shuffle, mini ...)
i da 14 milijuna podova, 3 milke songova dnevno - impressive!
jeste vidili novu reklamu? Apple makes even intel looks cool )
@fortius, ovaj calendar widget iz 10.4.4. nešto slično vi radite?
http://www.apple.com/intel/ads/
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Posted: 11.01.2006 11:52 Post subject: |
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Daj kupi tog intela vise da i ti osjetis sto je makina i postedi nas ove euforije
p.s.
aj kupi koju dionicu od appla, kladim se da ce onda poceti padati ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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Ivan Brezak Brkan
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Posted: 11.01.2006 11:57 Post subject: |
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grzzi wrote: | nigdi nema koliko traje baterija na novom booku ... jel to znači da intel ipak cica više struje ... (baterija je za 30% jača od one iz 17" Gg Pbooka btw) |
Navodno traje 3 sata...
grzzi wrote: | jeste vidili novu reklamu? Apple makes even intel looks cool ) |
Nova reklama je zakon Uspjeli su učiniti Intel simpatičnim... U biti Apple je htio pokazati da može izvesti Intel na pravi put (suradnja sa samim Appleom, promjena vizualnog identiteta, odbacivanje Intel inside, itd.) Ipak mi je najjače: "Whats an Intel chip doing in a Mac? A lot more than its ever done in a PC." )))
grzzi wrote: | @fortius, ovaj calendar widget iz 10.4.4. nešto slično vi radite? |
Pa... Ne baš...
1) naše nije Dashboard widget već desktop aplikacija (prije možda kao widget za Konfabulator)
2) imati će puno više opcija i načina prikaza
3) imati će skinove (css-based)
Jedino u biti što im je zajedničko što su oba free! ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Posted: 11.01.2006 12:44 Post subject: |
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Zanimljiv post na temu novog MacBooka Pro
Quote: | Lost in Transition: Overcane of Antflower Milk
Today Apple announced the MacBook Pro. It has quite a few changes compared to the previous PowerBook. For one, it uses an Intel Core Duo (formally known as Yonah) chip. This is a dual core processor and no, unlike what Steve Jobs stated, this does not have two processors. This will help a lot with responsiveness. I've been dreaming of a dual core laptop for quite a while. However, the realization of my dream coupled with the changes seen makes me cry.
Another change is, of course, the name. Which is horrible. It doesn't roll off the tongue at all and is just too confusing. It actually sounds like some child created it. Well, some PC using child. It's uninspired. The PowerBooks were not named for the chip they used (unlike the PowerMac) as they used a 68k processor and were called PowerBooks long before the PowerPC chip was in them. The new name really sounds like a good name for Accounting software, not a machine.
We've also lost quite a few technologies and features in this transition. All of the following items compare the Old PowerBook 15 inch to the new MacBook Pro 15 inch.
1. Power: The new portable ICBMs (Intel-chip based Macs, also iCBM) require more power than their previous iterations. they have a 60-watt-hour battery compared to the old PowerBook's 50-watt-hour battery. They also have 85 watt AC adapters compared to the old 65 watt AC adapters. Imaginary Watt per Performance Arbitrary Unit my butt.
2. Parts Missing: The S-Video output, the Modem, and the FW800 have been removed. The modem was extremely useful for those that traveled a lot and needed dialup access to get internet access. Not every hotel/rest area has an ethernet jack/wireless and not everyone can use dialup networking on their cell phone via Bluetooth. The S-Video was very, very useful for presentations on projection screens. Especially when so many of today's presentations are being done via PowerPoint slides. Argh. The FW800 (FireWire 800) was very useful for those that had FW800 devices and needed speed. Even more so for those that needed multiple FW400 ports because their devices weren't daisy chain-able (like the iPod). However, I imagine this could have been removed if having two bus powered devices on two different ports was too much of a power drain for the ICBM. Remove a feature to add longer battery life. Some people suggest these can be added back using the ExpressCard port. However, that's spending a more money for one feature as there is but one slot.
3. Visually Unimpressive: Here's an odd one. The old PowerBook has a 15.1 inch screen with a 1440x960 resolution. The new MacBook Pro has a resolution of 1440x900. Notice the smaller number? Yes, the new MacBook Pro has 86,400 fewer pixels than the old one. And because these pixels are in a greater area, it means the DPI is lower on the MacBook Pro as well.
4. Burning Issues: I didn't notice this until at least 3 people pointed it out to me, but the new MacBook Pro lacks Dual Layer DVD burning. I'm not even sure how that happens. Previously, Macs would come with DVD±RW burning or DVD+R DL burning without Apple even advertising it; machines would just have it included before it was a standard feature. Now they've actually removed Dual Layer burning. OMGWTF?
5. Arbitrary Additions: New to the MacBook Pro is a built in iSight and an IR port for the Front Row remote. I can barely understand the iSight for professional users. It might be useful for meetings on the road (or in a plane) and imagining Phil Schiller in a thong. But otherwise, it seems somewhat unnecessary. The Front Row remote I don't get at all. The MacBook Pro is a portable machine, having a remote with a portable machine just seems redundant in some way. And easily lost.
6. Performance: Apple says the new MacBook Pro is 4x-5x faster than the old PowerBook. I have to question this a lot. They didn't seem to mention the SPEC test was designed specifically for dual cores/processors and that the Intel compiler has been accused of cheating when it comes to compiling synthetic benchmarks in the past. But that's from memory and I can't find any concrete links on it at this time. Granted, Motorola dropped the ball and never really increased the bus speed for the G4, so even if it could process data fast, it was starved. The faster bus speed allows everything to proceed faster. However, the loss of AltiVec is a HUGE problem which Apple didn't show in their test. I watched a display MacBook Pro here at MWSF play a H.264 trailer for Fun With Dick & Jane and it was very, very noticeably skipping frames. My current 1.5Ghz PowerBook (with AltiVec, of course) plays the same trailer with no skipping.
All in all, it doesn't seem like the MacBook Pro is a very compelling laptop, especially without a 17-inch version. It actually seems like these things (the iMac too) were rushed into production. The MacBook Pro's case differs little from the old one and the iMac's case doesn't differ at all sans a mini-DVI out. The MacBook Pro does have one compelling feature, the magnetized power adapter. I've tripped over my current AC adapter so many times I've lost count. And it's fallen on my toes and cut up my shins when it falls. Snakes on a plane.
I should also mention that these new ICBMs from Apple use EFI instead of the standard PC BIOS. According to various documents from Microsoft, Windows for x86 machines does not support booting from EFI (HTML via Google) and won't until Windows Vista is released. As far as I know, no consumer PC ships with EFI support (why bother if Windows doesn't support it, right?). However, the Itanium machines require EFI. This has two "problems". One, you may not be able to dual boot Windows until Vista is released. Two, it'll be significantly harder to make OS X run on a stock PC without EFI.
There is good news though, Windows Media Player (WiMP) for OS X is finally dead! Hail Caesar!
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Posted: 11.01.2006 14:06 Post subject: |
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kao što sam rekao, bojim se da intel i nije neki upgrade čak ni u odnosu na sad već prastari G4 (da je motorola digla malo brzinu sabirnice, ta stara G4 orka bi se sasvim fino nosila sa bilo kojim procesorom)... intelova stara boljka sa potrošnjom struje se vidi u izostavljanju specifikacija potrošnje, tj trajanja baterije što je neshvatljivo za laptop ... kako su pumpali taj dual core Yonnah nadao sam se bateriji od bar 6-8 sati ... (za stari su specifikacije 5-6 sati)
ne kažem da MacBook (zaista glupo ime i beskonačno lošije od već poznatog i dobrog branda PowerBook) nije solidan upgrade u odnosu na prethodnu generaciju, ali nikakva revolucija...
izostanak FW 800? izgleda da je apple odustao od razvoja svoje Firewire tehnologije, jer je odavno očekivani FW1600 otpao, a sad odbacuju i FW 800 i umjesto njega koriste totalno inferiorni ali općeprihvaćeni intelov USB 2... bad attitude...
Vizualno ništa novo, što možda i nije loše jer je i stari PBook daleko najljepši laptop na tržištu sa nedohvatljivom razinom završne obrade ...
očekujem v.2
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Posted: 11.01.2006 14:28 Post subject: |
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max_mad wrote: | Daj kupi tog intela vise da i ti osjetis sto je makina i postedi nas ove euforije
p.s.
aj kupi koju dionicu od appla, kladim se da ce onda poceti padati ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
hey michael dell wannabe, idi gledaj te ružne dellove u firmi i ne petljaj se...odi su odrasli. )
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@grzzi: da, slažem se da su G4 zvijerke od procesora uzevši u obzir takt, kada su izišli i uspoređujući ih sa Intelima...
Ja sam očekiva da će mi ovaj mini biti dosta spor (ali to mi nije bilo toliko važno, jer uglavnom lupam kôd na kompu) -- kad ono meni full brzo jebote, sve radi brzo čak i sa 512MB memorije, da je 1GB manje bi se koristia swap i radilo bi još brže. Ali procesor kao procesor je stvarno dobar, proba sam i kompajlirati par opensource softa u /usr/local i bome dobro kompajlira...
Mini sa G4 proc. na 1.5GHz i 512MB RAM-a je osjetno brži od moje PC kante sa 2.0GHz P4 northwood Intelom i isto 512MB memorije te puno bržim diskom (7200 vs. 4200 ili 5400?) -- neću ni pričati o samoj kvalliteti i različitosti hardwarea i softwarea :)
Mogu misliti onda kakvi su duali i iMacovi i duali dvojezgreni :) Motorola rocks. A valjda će bit nešto i od ovih Intela majkumu... |
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grzzi wrote: | nova Litij polymer baterija traje samo 3 sata?? |
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Intel customers 'aren't dull', says Intel
By Macworld staff
Apple's move to criticise existing Intel customers as "dull" has vexed the new chip-making partner.
During his keynote speech, Apple CEO Steve Jobs screened a new ad that proclaimed freedom for Intel's chips and a new age of being used to do more interesting things. It characterises Intel chips as having been: "Trapped inside PCs - dull little boxes, dutifully performing dull little tasks."
Intel vice-president Deborah Conrad denied such claims, telling CNet News.com: "Never would we characterise our customers that way."
Conrad explained that while Intel worked with Apple on some parts of the advertisement, it had no idea what Apple's chosen voice over would claim.
However, there may be an element of truth in there. The Intel VP said that her company hopes bringing Apple into the Intel fold will spark innovation among the "beige box makers", perhaps inspiring them to have a go at making better-looking products.
Not that they are dull, or anything.
napokon malo živosti u pc industriji ... i još se intelov gazda dao nagovoriti da izađe pred publiku u bunny odijelu
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samo još ako niste već vidili googleovu konkurenciju iTunes video storeu
http://video.google.com/
how lame... je content is king, ali ovo me nije volja ni listati ... a cijene su ohoho ...
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Apple now worth more than Dell
On October 6, 1997, in response to the question of what he'd do if he was in charge of Apple Computer, Dell founder and then CEO Michael Dell stood before a crowd of several thousand IT executives and answered flippantly, "What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders."
A little more than a month later, on November 10, 1997, new Apple iCEO Steve Jobs responded, speaking in front of an image of Michael Dell's bulls-eye covered face, "We're coming after you, you're in our sights."
Today, after a little more than eight years of hard work, Apple Computer, Inc. passed Dell, Inc. in market value. That's right, at market close Apple Computer ($72,132,428,843) is now worth more than Dell ($71,970,702,760).
Got any snappy retorts for that one, Mr. Dell?
On Friday the 13th, a most appropriate day, of January 2006, Apple Computer?s market value surpassed that of Dell, Inc. To mark the occasion, Steve Jobs sent a short e-mail to Apple employees.
"Team, it turned out that Michael Dell wasn't perfect at predicting the future. Based on today's stock market close, Apple is worth more than Dell. Stocks go up and down, and things may be different tomorrow, but I thought it was worth a moment of reflection today. Ste
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