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i72852



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PostPosted: 06.01.2005 17:13    Post subject: Sto je bolje?? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

1. jedan index.* koji sadrzi haeder, footer, meni, i sve kaj je na
svakoj stranici i onda preko include ubacivati fileove koji se
odreduju iz query-a u kojima se nalazi srkipte za vijesti, neki podaci i ostalo...

s ASP-om je ovo malo bezveze jer tamo se ne moze odrediti da ucita samo jedan file, nego treba odrediti sve i onda po select ili if odrediti kaj da prikaze... a to bi puno usporili, jer sve se ucitava, a ne samo ono sto treba

s PHP ima smisla...


ili

2. zasebno fileovi header, footer, meni ... i onda njuh ubacivatu u
fileove koji se ucitavaju (npr. vijesti)???

dakle sto je bolje 1. ili 2.?? Think
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PostPosted: 06.01.2005 17:21    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

meni je puno bolja prva varijanta...

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PostPosted: 06.01.2005 18:03    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06.01.2005 18:43    Post subject: Re: Sto je bolje?? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

72852 wrote:


s ASP-om je ovo malo bezveze jer tamo se ne moze odrediti da ucita samo jedan file, nego treba odrediti sve i onda po select ili if odrediti kaj da prikaze... a to bi puno usporili, jer sve se ucitava, a ne samo ono sto treba


Ako možeš ovo malo pojasniti.. jer uvjeren sam da se može i sa asp-om ?!

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PostPosted: 06.01.2005 18:53    Post subject: Re: Sto je bolje?? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

vedran wrote:
72852 wrote:

s ASP-om je ovo malo bezveze jer tamo se ne moze odrediti da ucita samo jedan file, nego treba odrediti sve i onda po select ili if odrediti kaj da prikaze... a to bi puno usporili, jer sve se ucitava, a ne samo ono sto treba

Ako možeš ovo malo pojasniti.. jer uvjeren sam da se može i sa asp-om ?!

ma može se i asp-om Wink meni se čini da autor samo ne zna sve mogućnosti
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PostPosted: 06.01.2005 20:11    Post subject: Re: Sto je bolje?? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

vedran wrote:
72852 wrote:


s ASP-om je ovo malo bezveze jer tamo se ne moze odrediti da ucita samo jedan file, nego treba odrediti sve i onda po select ili if odrediti kaj da prikaze... a to bi puno usporili, jer sve se ucitava, a ne samo ono sto treba


Ako možeš ovo malo pojasniti.. jer uvjeren sam da se može i sa asp-om ?!


npr. sa PHP-om:
Code:

$ime = 'nesto';
include($ime . '.php');


ASP (ovo ne radi):
Code:

<?
ime="nest"
?>
<!--#include file="<? response.write("ime")?>.asp" -->


mozda ima jos koji nacin, za koji ja neznam...
pitao sam za ovo i na news grupi, ali niko nije znao (ovo s ASP-om)...
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PostPosted: 06.01.2005 21:57    Post subject: Re: Sto je bolje?? Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

72852 wrote:
vedran wrote:
72852 wrote:


s ASP-om je ovo malo bezveze jer tamo se ne moze odrediti da ucita samo jedan file, nego treba odrediti sve i onda po select ili if odrediti kaj da prikaze... a to bi puno usporili, jer sve se ucitava, a ne samo ono sto treba


Ako možeš ovo malo pojasniti.. jer uvjeren sam da se može i sa asp-om ?!

ASP (ovo ne radi):
Code:

<?
ime="nest"
?>
<!--#include file="<? response.write("ime")?>.asp" -->



ASP (ovo radi): Very Happy
Code:

ime="nest"
Server.execute(ime)

Ima nekih razlika izmjedu includa i server.executea, ali ukoliko to koristiš samo za prikazivanje headera, footera i sl. poslužiti će..

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PostPosted: 07.01.2005 00:51    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Embarassed nisam znao... thx...
a kakva je razlika??
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PostPosted: 07.01.2005 00:59    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

e kad vec o ovome rapravljate, sto je bolje za search?
meni recimo najvise ljudi dolazi sa keywordom "brushes" ili "brushes download" ili "swirl brushes" i slicno i to onda direktno na stranicu brushes.php
ako ja tu stranicu okljastrim cisto za includanje, hoce li je google nac? posto nece imat <html> i <body> tag. ne kuzim kako to funkcionira, pa ono pliz pojasnite

btw 72852, imas zakon avatar Laughing

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PostPosted: 07.01.2005 01:08    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Što ti točno želiš napraviti?

Meni su recimo svi tekstovi pohranjeni plain u bazi, ali ih inkludam u template gdje se nalaze svi potrebni tag-ovi, navigacija i sl. Ukoliko želiš da ti posjetitelji i dalje dolaze na stranicu (jedan od razloga zašto dolaze na tvoj site je i što se stranica zove brushes.psp) trebao bi složiti i neki rewrite engine tako da kranji link na kraju isto završava sa /brushes.php, /brushes.html ili sl.
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PostPosted: 07.01.2005 02:45    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

uh don't get all sciency on me Laughing vrhunac mog php dostignuca su includeovi...

samo da nesto isprobam.

ok, google je pronasao ovo http://komettails.net/index.php?link=brushes dakle stvar radi.
hvala lijepa Very Happy

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PostPosted: 07.01.2005 10:01    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Radi, ali pitanje je kako će to utjecati na poziciju tvoje stranice prilikom prikaza googlovi rezultata Very Happy
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PostPosted: 07.01.2005 12:07    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

nel`chee wrote:
btw 72852, imas zakon avatar Laughing


hvala... Rolling Eyes


A što mislite za ove načine? 1. ili 2?
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PostPosted: 07.01.2005 21:45    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

72852 wrote:

a kakva je razlika??


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PostPosted: 10.01.2005 16:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

jedno pitanje me oduvijek muci vezano uz include fileove (i PHP i ASP):

Jest da olaksava naknadno azuriranje stranica, dakle okrenuto je developeru. A da li je okrenuto i korisniku, da li se brze ucitavaju takve stranice - tj. da li ih server na neki nacin cacheira ili nesto slicno... Ili naprotiv usporava ucitavanje, jer ako je tako, onda to vise necu koristiti?
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PostPosted: 10.01.2005 17:49    Post subject: Add user to your forum ignore list Reply with quote

Po meni je bolja ova druga varijanta ... jer ti daje vecu slobodu , npr. ak trebas uredit neki detaljcic na footeru.. jednostavno otvoris datoteku footer.php i udri Smile

And , onda mozes i kombinirat i ovo s kverijima i ovak s eksterdnim datotekakama...
ja npr. radim tako da narapvim sve kaj je za "skin" od stranice vezano poslazem u .tpl datoteke i onda ih od tamo cupam , i onda imam mogucnost da promjenim cijeli dizajn , a da sadrzaj ostane isit ,treba malo kombinirat i mozgat... i tak Smile

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