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nel`chee
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kakarinac
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Posted: 09.09.2005 07:57 Post subject: |
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ha ha Uncle Sam is watching you...
Paranoja... |
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Posted: 09.09.2005 08:59 Post subject: |
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mozda je to radi tvog siga |
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Posted: 09.09.2005 09:13 Post subject: |
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NIsta cudno - pa koliko je tamo ljudi zaposlenih u vojsci i radi s komp. nisu roboti i oni surfaju po netu... |
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nel`chee
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Posted: 09.09.2005 14:43 Post subject: |
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ali na moj site
u biti... hmm i nije tako cudno, imam u galeriji slika jednu pod nazivom "hot pants"... koliko mi je ljudi doslo na site sa google frazom "hot pants gallery"
da, bit ce da je to u pitanju. |
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Sulien
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Posted: 09.09.2005 17:11 Post subject: |
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pa ako su ti dobre statistike onda mozes vidjeti searcheve preko kojih ljudi dolaze na tvoj sajt... a mozes izvuci i svakog od tih military posjeta i, ako salju referer, mozes vidjeti otkuda su dosli i sto su searchali, sto bi rjesilo ovu misteriju |
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Posted: 09.09.2005 18:07 Post subject: |
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Nije nikakva misterija.
Iznad toga isto imaš US Educational,.. (.edu), to je samo takva adresa.
Ima vojska,(mislim da je .usm), goverment (.gov),.......nemora imati NIKAKVE veze sa vojskom.
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Posted: 09.09.2005 18:40 Post subject: |
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nego ovaj...te hot pants.... imaš neku bolju sliku?
malo...opširniju...... ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Sulien
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Posted: 09.09.2005 19:48 Post subject: |
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modovun wrote: | Nije nikakva misterija.
Iznad toga isto imaš US Educational,.. (.edu), to je samo takva adresa.
Ima vojska,(mislim da je .usm), goverment (.gov),.......nemora imati NIKAKVE veze sa vojskom.
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znači da ovaj tool za statistike ne radi IP lookup po zemljama već samo uzme domenu sa referera?? to onda nisu nikakve statistike
je'l to webalizer? izgleda poznato ![Think](images/smiles/icon_think.gif)
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Posted: 09.09.2005 19:52 Post subject: |
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Sulien
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Posted: 09.09.2005 19:59 Post subject: |
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I'm not quite following you ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
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nel`chee
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Posted: 09.09.2005 21:32 Post subject: |
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@Sulien: jep, Webalizer... imam i Awstats pa mogu tamo provjerit... nope, tamo nema. Samo je na vrhu USA ali nema ovih.
@silence: nemam, samo zivi model
@BS: pojasni
nisam sad skuzila, sto ne bi to trebalo znacit ciji je ISP? npr. sve sa T-com-a, CARNet-a, Iskon-a itd. strpa pod Hrvatsku, AOL i ine pod USA... a po nekoj logici Military je odvojeno od public ISP-ova i sad ne znam jel mislim dobro ili ne, ispravite me. |
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Phiber
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Posted: 09.09.2005 22:03 Post subject: |
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e kad smo vec kod cudnih vizitora....
denite si ovo u .htaccess
Code: | SetEnvIf User-Agent ^OmniExplorer bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^EmailSiphon bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^EmailWolf bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^ExtractorPro bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Mozilla.*NEWT bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Crescent bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^CherryPicker bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^[Ww]eb[Bb]andit bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^WebEMailExtrac.* bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^NICErsPRO bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Teleport bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Zeus.*Webster bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Microsoft.URL bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^Wget bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^LinkWalker bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^sitecheck.internetseer.com bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^ia_archiver bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^DIIbot bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^psbot bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^EmailCollector bad_bad_bot=1
SetEnvIf User-Agent ^InternetSeer.com bad_bad_bot=1
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moja bad bad botovi lista. neki kopiraju sadrzaj, neki papaju bandwidth (obicno su ipeji iz japana), neki su u qrcu... |
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nel`chee
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Phiber
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Posted: 09.09.2005 22:21 Post subject: |
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nel`chee wrote: | jelo moze to npr ovako kako ja vec imam?
pa da na istu shemu dodam i ove |
pa je. al je setenvif + deny rule brzhi od mod_rewrite ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Posted: 09.09.2005 23:03 Post subject: |
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Sulien
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Posted: 10.09.2005 14:30 Post subject: |
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nel`chee wrote: | nisam sad skuzila, sto ne bi to trebalo znacit ciji je ISP? npr. sve sa T-com-a, CARNet-a, Iskon-a itd. strpa pod Hrvatsku, AOL i ine pod USA... |
nakon ovoga više nisam siguran kako to webalizer gleda, ali ja redovito skidam jednu besplatnu bazu IP rangeva za sve zemlje, pohranjujem je u svoju bazu i moje statistike rade lookup po toj bazi sa svaki IP... kao i tone drugih statistika (npr awstats ima neki plugin koji se zove geoip ili nešto). Po toj metodi si otprilike 98% u pravu oko zemlje iz koje je došao request, a (koliko znam) nemoguće je 100% znati zbog raznih faktora.
Takve baze mappinga po zemljama su obično besplatne i mogu se skinuti sa ponekog sajta u obliku CSV fajla. Baze mappinga po gradovima i točnim zemljopisnim koordinatama su komercijalne i cijena im ovisi o količini informacija koje njima dobiješ. Postoji jedna nekomercijalna (nešto kao opensource projekt) baza koja radi dosta loše za HR jer jednostavno nema dosta informacija za našu zemlju, ISP-eve i sl. Aplikacija će onda pogađat iz kojeg si grada - wild guess - pa ćeš jednom biti iz Zadra, drugi put iz Varaždina, a zapravo si iz ZG.
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Posted: 10.09.2005 15:42 Post subject: |
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Posted: 10.09.2005 16:21 Post subject: |
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BS wrote: | ti linkovi ne štete pri rankingu, no naporni su po statistikama. |
štete na nekim enginovima (je, google nije jedini), a na guglu su štetili izmedju bourbon apdejta i zadnjeg apdejta |
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Posted: 10.09.2005 17:13 Post subject: |
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Posted: 11.09.2005 09:56 Post subject: |
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Posted: 11.09.2005 11:58 Post subject: |
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BS wrote: | kada kažeš iz vlastitog iskustva, znači sumnjaš da ti je netko utjecao na ban tvog sitea? ili vlastito iskustvo znači čitanje po forumu? |
ne na ban već na serp positioning.
[quote="BS"]Često se zna dogodit po forumima da ljudi lažu da bi privukli pažnju
ok. sad još i lažem. ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Posted: 11.09.2005 12:26 Post subject: |
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